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jeff tang's avatar

Thanks for the shoutout. I’m continuing to summarize published research and evidence-based stories on testosterone on my blog https://tparty.org/. My last post was on Semen Retention for increasing T, which I will be replicating with others.

In terms of the supplements not doing anything, it may be just be the brand, as I talked to another person who used the same brand and also didn’t see increases in T. Apparently Amazon supps suck!

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Edward Lee's avatar

I'm much more inclined to believe in someone like Bryan Johnson who is as transparent as it gets over David Sinclair who is trying to sell books/pills/companies. Really nice observation about the vegetable oil rather than the meat itself as a possible cause for an upset stomach. I personally like to use avocado oil to fry food, it's neutral tasting with high-quality fats and has a very high smoke point.

As smart and well credentialed as some of these researchers are, I think they could all read some Nassim Taleb and admit that we don't understand how complex of a system the human body is. They can find all sorts of associations but that does not imply causation. It's very upsetting that even scientists with PhD's will go out of their way to make stuff up to promote/defend their ideas. I think it's human instinct and very difficult to overcome. I was reminded of this tendency just a while ago when my wife texted me one of her vegan friends lamenting that movie theater popcorn is loaded with butter. Then her other vegan friend texted back with "most movie theaters use coconut oil to cook popcorn". Literally just trying to justify their behavior so that it was not inconsistent with their strongly held beliefs rather than admitting they love the taste of butter. These same vegan friends are also eating some of the most heavily processed food and snacking on things loaded with sugar throughout the day to stave off hunger while admitting to having certain nutrient deficiencies. All for the sake of a misguided belief that their behavior is somehow better for the planet (a huge thank you for all the great content you've posted on this topic).

The world would be so much better off if people could just be okay with eating whatever tastes good to them instead of thinking they need to prove to others they are correct. I personally have been almost exclusively on animal products for the past few months and feel amazing. Pretty sure you can get all the nutrients the body needs regardless of the source but as Bryan Johnson has said in his videos he eats 70lbs of vegetables per month, which is impractical for most people. Like you mentioned with spinach iron having only a 2% absorption rate, the bioavailability for plant source nutrients is just a lot lower.

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