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Ricardo Lopez's avatar

Hi Joseph.

First of all thanks for all your content over the years.

On this meditation topic, I suggest you check out the waking up app by Sam Harris. In the app, he and many other teachers teach meditation and have many conversations about enlightenment and awakening, all from a non-religious secular point of view (as you would expect from Sam). Perhaps you already have tried waking up, perhaps you don't. But anyway I'll put this 30-day trial link in case you (or anyone seeing this) are interested: https://dynamic.wakingup.com/shareOpenAccess/SC6FBE7C0

I talk about waking up because Sam and other teachers say explicitly how it is possible (not easy or highly probable necessarily) to have an awakening (enlightenment) experience without expending months or years of meditating. In a talk (https://dynamic.wakingup.com/course/91b9d5?share_id=1200ADAA&source=content%20share) you can find in the app he talks about his experience in silent retreat meditating and not getting this enlightenment thing, and after going through different Buddhist traditions he got an instruction to look for the "self" that let him glimpse this enlightenment thing and understand it better. And in a way, he believes that you don't need that hard training to see the benefits of meditation in your daily life.

Also, there is some risk involved in doing long meditation retreats. You can hear it in more detail in this talk in the app: https://dynamic.wakingup.com/course/38d555?share_id=FB9B770D&source=content%20share . Although I think the benefits surpassed the risk involved.

All and all, you are presenting things I haven't seen before and I appreciate that you talk about this topic. Thanks.

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Agustín Bessa's avatar

Hi Joseph, have you been on a vipassana retreat? I have been thinking about goint to one all this year and your last 3 post are helping me to decide what to do.

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